Anatoly Karlin speculates on the IQ of Russian leaders. In his analysis, they are witty geniuses with first class academic certificates. Anatoly so loves Putin that assigns him the same IQ level he gives to himself: 140. The reason: Putin's brilliant academic carreer. Wait a second, Tolya! What academic carreer? Putin is a professional political policeman, and in Russia (like in Israel) at certain level they are sent to special university courses to grant them prestigious PhDs that, academically and otherwise, mean nothing. The academic achievements of Putin's circle prove they are policemen marked for advancement but not necessarily smart.Anatoly equates the fact that someone was admitted to a prestigious Russian university with brilliance. Nonsense. At Ariel University I have hundreds of Russian colleges who were discriminated against in Russia (for being "Yevrey") and were admitted only in Alma Ata or Birobidjan. They are (were) the cream of Russian intelligentzia. Moscow and Saint Petersburg are prestigious, and I admit they are good and not third world, but you dont have to be a genius to be admitted.
Thirdly, there is the amazing fact that the few Jews remaining in Russia are so salient and get rich and famous so easily. That must mean that the competence is very weak. The people Anatoly calls geniuses are being measured against a very poor background.
Lastly, Anatoly describes his idols as witty and full of humor, a sure sign of high intelligence. Russian humor? Jew bashing produces horse laughs on TV and the street, but "humor"? The boychik is drunk or suffering from the Stockholm syndrome.
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There is something in the Russian character that wants to idolize the Czar. Stalin was also the genius of all geniuses, gifted in all fields - math, music, architecture, etc.
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Anatoly Karlin is ...the author of the blog Da Russophile deconstructing Western media lies about Russia.
See the Western media lies - Putin is no thug. He can speak 5 or 6 words of English. Surely a sign of a highly cultured man.
K
"Thirdly, there is the amazing fact that the few Jews remaining in Russia are so salient and get rich and famous so easily. That must mean that the competence is very weak."
Or that Jews are so strong. In the US, approx. 1/3 of the Forbes 500 richest people are Jewish, which makes them over-represented by a factor of around 20. I think there is 1 black (Oprah) on the list, so a Jew is maybe 1,500 times more likely to be a billionaire than a black. Russia probably falls somewhere in-between.
K
Or that Jews are so strong. In the US, approx. 1/3 of the Forbes 500 richest people are Jewish,
Can anyone verify that number?
The 1/3 stat originates from racehist - an author who displays his collection of Jewish skulls on his blog for artistic taste.
I would like a count from a more objective source than an anti-semite like him or Steve Sailer.
See the Western media lies - Putin is no thug.
He is objectively better than Western liberal thugs. And he has been good for Russian Jews.
The Russian gene pool was cleared out of its high IQ elements by the Communists in the early days. Needless to say when the Communists went after any White Russian with an education - the priests, the intelligentsia, the business class and the aristocracy the white gene pool took a massive hit. In their place came the children of the checkhists and the nomenclatura, in other words the murderers. Screw up the remaining muzhaks with collectivisation and Marxist economics and you have a wasteland.
Stalin the unprecedented genius of World History has an ironic claim to being the greatest Tsar - has there ever been a system so widespread as Communism yet so evil in its effects?
Ivan
Putin is admittedly no thug and he is trying to put Russia on its feet again, and he can deliver a speech, but he is no genius. Why every Russian leader must be an infalible Sun of the Peoples?
Communism is not dead, it is alive and well in the West; in fact on the ascendant.
The Cold War (paradoxically) was just a warm-up. What follows will be much worse. Political Correctness, Multiculturalism, mass immigration; these are merely the opening shots. The first enemy, white nationalism, has already been earmarked for destruction, as has white hegemony over any part of the world whatsoever. Israel as we know it is also marked for destruction.
There is no doubt that Russia is a dumber place because of the many sequelae of the revolution; most of those who died or emigrated were likely to have been above average IQ. That the remaining Russians managed to wriggle free, was in no way due to their own efforts, either. Today, they struggle to reproduce themselves or run a modern economy.
Pol Pot was simply re-playing an older script.
This needs to be understood in the West, but those who should be warning us, the media and our "leaders", are in the ranks of the enemy.
Anon.
but he is no genius. Why every Russian leader must be an infalible Sun of the Peoples?
140 is not genius.
It's a semantic argument that depends how one defines "genius." Some IQ scales use 140 as the lower threshold for genius. An obvious genius like von Neumann almost certainly would have tested much higher, but a 140 IQ score on a legitimate IQ test (i.e. not a free internet test or a guesstimate based on SAT scores) is fairly rare.
I would like a count from a more objective source than an anti-semite like him or Steve Sailer.
Is Sailer truly an anti-Semite? Racehist clearly is, but Sailer suffers from association with his WN commenters. His full set of views about Jews aren't entirely clear, but he has at least declared himself a "citizenist" in the past as opposed to a WN, and he doesn't seem to consider Ashkenazi Jews non-white, which is a hallmark WN belief since it helps to set set the stage for demonizing Jews.
Is Sailer truly an anti-Semite?
He likes to swim with those sharks.
His full set of views about Jews aren't entirely clear,
Good cop, bad cop, same lies.
An obvious genius like von Neumann almost certainly would have tested much higher,
Von Neumann scored 200.
but a 140 IQ score on a legitimate IQ test (i.e. not a free internet test or a guesstimate based on SAT scores) is fairly rare.
Under a Gaussian curve, it is uncommon but not exceptional.
Anatoli is suffering from the Russian mental disease of divinizing their leaders. Putin and Medvedev are good guys, Putin an excellent judoka and Medvedev a jolly good drinking fellow, and they are good to the Jews too. But they are not descendents from Gods nor sons of X-men, nor have exceptional intelligence. They know it and happily they dont write theoretical treatises on Marr's theory of language that we have to learn in school.
Von Koko scored 65.
Anon.
He likes to swim with those sharks.
They're commenters on his site. They like to swim with him.
Von Koko can predict the winning lottery number. She scored 100 million.
Russia is the spiritual descendant of Byzantium and Byzantium was the descendant of Rome. The Romans literally divinized their emperors. Russia in all its cruelty is in many ways the continuation of the Roman Imperial System (with a Slavic tinge). If you understand it in that way, a lot of things about it make sense.
K
Roman leaders were deified for their power, never for their intellect. They could erect a temple to the God Puin and have vestal virgins to keep the eternal flame and a Pontifice - Anatoly Karlin _ to sing laudatory prayers to the god.
On the other hand, it is in the USA that slow-burning Stalinism is alive and well.
Anon.
One of the ex-Czech dissidents (who is in a position to know) recently wrote an op-ed to the effect that Obama-ism is just a form of Euro/democratic Socialism and has nothing to do with real Stalinism (I think he was trying to help Obama when he wrote this but perhaps didn't realize that many Americans don't like Euro-socialism much more than they like Communism). The main difference being the all pervasive fear which Stalinism instills thru terror.
I think he is right. It is fair to call Obama a socialist but not Stalinist. It dishonors the memory of the real victims of terror when you call everyone a Nazi or a Communist - the Nazi who served my coffee without enough cream in it, etc.
K
I think you might find things will change in the second Obama term (the one which will last 20 years or so).
In Europe, there is already well-established a reign of terror, for anyone who dares speak their minds on issues of race, religion, IQ, homosexuality, etc.
The USA will catch up.
Just ask James Watson.
Anon.
If the Obama 2nd term really stretches 20 yrs then all bets are off, but I don't think it will. Even if things go badly, even the left doesn't think of Obama as their great savior anymore. Hillary almost ran against him THIS time.
K
Again, you don't "get" real Stalinism. If America was Stalinist, then Watson would have not only lost his job but his life (and they would have deported his family to Alaska too, for good measure). It's just a whole different level of terror.
K
Don't worry, I get Stalinism alright. Also there is the interesting question of Stalin's state of mind...
It is of course hyperbole, but I see tendencies now, inklings, and not-so-little stormclouds on the horizon, in the USA; witness the assault on George Zimmerman, the Orwellization of language, the persecution of Larry Summers, Derbyshire etc. To say nothing of the organized assault on Western Civ, and other personal liberties, in the "universities".
And in Europe, things are much further down the road. Much further. In Europe, it's real.
Anon.
You say you get it but you don't. Losing your job is a form of (leftist) McCarthyism, not Stalinism. Derbyshire is not rotting in some gulag, Watson did not get a bullet to the back of the head, Zimmerman will probably be found not guilty and will make millions when he "writes" a book about his experience (i.e. has one written for him by a ghost writer). This is nothing like the real, pee in your pants terror that every Soviet citizen experienced every time there was an unexpected knock on the door.
My Russian history professor (a very entertaining chap from an exiled noble Russian family) told a story (probably not true) about a Soviet commissar who returned his Moscow apartment during the purges to find his phone line dead. He knew it was standard practice to cut the phone lines of those who were about to be arrested so they could not warn their colleagues (he knew this because he had issued such orders himself). Knowing the inevitable end and not wishing to be tortured, he whipped out his pistol and shot himself. His body was discovered by the telephone repairman.
K
K, I actually lived through a police state experience, quite close to a lot of activists, some of whom were murdered; I get it.
These things start in a small way. The USA will ultimately be resistant to Stalinism, but there are those close to Jo Bama who would have done a very good job in 1930's Russia.
As I said, you need to take a close look at what is happening in the UK. It is en route, and very disturbing. As an Anglo-Scot, I would have thought this current level of intrusive totalitarianism in England of all places, to be utterly unthinkable, but there it is.
Anon.
"This is nothing like the real, pee in your pants terror that every Soviet citizen experienced every time there was an unexpected knock on the door."
Yeap. Family lived through this also.
Westerners like Anon simply do not get it. Your family has to live through this to understand it.
By the way Stalin was an exception in exceptional times. Normal soviet society was nowhere near.
Just like we can not draw conclusions about the french republic by making always comparisons with the terror from early revolutionary times.
It is like talking always about the Jacobin terror when speaking about republics, be they Israel or US.
We don't get so many Robbespierres.
By the way SU in stalinist times was a very oligarchic society. Terror was not necessarily a feature of the system. You can get millions of inmates in US - simmilar numbers as in stalinist SU - even without Djugasvilli.
Only real problem is that the level of systemic corruption in US has become threatening for the survival of society. A purge of stalinist levels of the elites - camps and inmates US has already at simmilar levels already - might be the only way for the US to survive as functional society.
I do not think it will be possible and have no desire to see such a thing.
How it will evolve without a Stalin or FDR is much much more interesting. Those two we already saw in action. Nothing interesting any more.
But how about an increase of theft and corruption? How it will play out? That is something worth seeing.
Normal soviet society was nowhere near.
An experience like that leaves scars for a long time. Up until Gorbachev, they were still arresting dissidents, etc. People remained wary and were not comfortable speaking freely until the very end. And now again, putting yourself on Putin's bad side can get you killed or sent off somewhere.
You keep on finding equivalency between Communist and US systems but I don't agree. This is done a lot with Israel and the Arabs too - cycle of violence, blah, blah, blah. Israel is not on the same moral plane as Hezbollah. Targeted assassination of enemy military scientists is not the same as blowing up tourists. Likewise, US has good and valid reasons for its high incarceration rates having to do with its racial makeup. Slavery was America's original sin for which it continues to pay and pay. What's amazing BTW is that only 5% of the slaves imported from Africa were brought to the US. They had to keep bringing more and more to Brazil because they kept dying, whereas the slaves in the US had fertility greater than Europeans. Only 600,000 were brought from Africa and the rest was natural increase. Israel should keep this in mind for those who say that there are "only a few" Africans in Israel.
K
Mid-19th century American leaders should have pushed the Liberia angle harder.
The Liberia thing was never realistic. By then, there were millions of African-Americans. Even if they were willing to go voluntarily (most wouldn't any more than they would today) the economy of the US depended on their labor and it would have been very disruptive to lose that workforce.
Blacks in the rural south were OK - they were violent but not much more so than the local whites. The big mistake was 1. relocating them to the urban North and 2. de-industrializing not long after they arrived. So you had (have) essentially a surplus population for which the gov't has to provide bread and circuses, or else.
K
K,
Yours is an excellent argument for clamping down on birthrates across the board. The African-Americans in the de-industrialized cities were turned into a threatening surplus population. Increasing automation and outsourcing in the U.S. could turn much of the white and Hispanic population into surplus as well. Why should we assume that they will be non-threatening? J seems to make that assumption, at least as regards the numerous children of the haredim and hasidim in Israel, but I don't see the evidence.
Hasidim are rarely threatening. Non-Jewish whites and Hispanics can be dangerous. White people are slow to anger but when they do get angry they can be extremely dangerous - see Holmes.
K
"White people are slow to anger.."
I would say this is a correct observation, and leads non-whites and even white elites to overstep the mark every few decades or so.
I would say, looking around the world, that we are overdue for another eruption.
Anon.
"when they do get angry they can be extremely dangerous - see Holmes."
Regarding Holmes, how do we know he wasn't crazier than he waa angry. I'm still expecting schizophrenia or a related disorder to surface in his case.
The haredim and hasidim haven't had many opportunities to be threatening, but now that they live in a Jewish country and make up a large share of the population, it's changing. Surely you remember the women harrassed on ultra-Orthodox buses and the little modern Orthodox girl harrassed by ultra-Orthodox while walking to school. And oh yes, throwing stones at secular Jews who drive on the Sabbath. I think there's evidence that the ultra-Orthodox can be quite threatening given the right opportunities and incentives.
Holmes so far is an enigma. K will need to advise us here on the parameters surrounding the insanity defense. However, one of the paradoxes here is that to successfully rig all this up required considerable and sustained mental cohesion, so he could not have been too insane.
Likewise Breivik; this is precisely the issue before the Norwegian courts.
Anon.
Legal insanity overlaps but is not synonymous with medical insanity. I'm pretty certain that he fits the latter even if not the former.
The public does not like the insanity defense, especially in high profile cases and it unlikely that it will be successful here. Holmes sure looks crazy to me but as was said above the criteria for legal insanity are different and the fact that he was sane enough to organize all that weaponry will be held against him.
If it could be shown that Holmes thought that everyone that he was shooting at in the theater was a space alien or zombie out to get him and not human, that would be a good defense. Unfortunately he imagined himself in the wrong movie.
K
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